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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-05-2018, 08:41 AM Thread Starter
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Nissan hits 100k sales in Europe

The new Leaf continues to hit milestones in the UK, celebrating its 100,000th delivery of the car this month. However it looks like some customers in the UK feel mislead by the charging times outlined by Nissan. The automaker claims the Leaf will charge to 80% at a fast charger in under 40 minutes. However many drivers have been left at charging stations for over two hours. Nissan has since updated the 40 minute claim to be between 40 and 60 minutes. Due to some of these reports it looks like the Advertising Standards Authority is now considering investigating the issue.
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I knew this issue was going to come up eventually, it was only a matter of time with how many models are already on the road. Wonder what fix Nissan could possible offer. Seems like the throttled down charge rate is a built in safety feature to prevent over heating.
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Yeah I'm not really sure if there is going to be any way to retro fix this problem, without implementing a proper cooling system. I know Nissan plans on using one in the 60kWh Leaf, but they are going to have to do something for current owners as well.
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The great thing about cars today is that a lot is controlled and regulated by computer, which can work for and against us. In this case it could mean reprogramming to improve or resolve the issue. Of course that's if its to do with the vehicles components. If not, we might in for a longer wait.
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That would be great if they could simply make some tweaks to the ECU, but I have the feeling that the throttled charging is a result of a built in failsafe. Don't think they'll take a risk in allowing the battery to run hotter.
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post #6 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-12-2018, 08:32 AM Thread Starter
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I know the Leaf does have some sort of air cooling and perhaps that system could be improved upon. Though its effectiveness will vary a lot from region to region based upon climate.
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I don't really think that air cooling is going to cut it, as like you have suggested that will also cause battery issues for places with severe winters. Active thermal management will become increasingly standard, if automakers want to ensure the longest lifetime of the systems.
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With Nissan offering a battery refurbishment program, I expect that one of the first steps they could take is to swap out batteries that are proving to be problematic. This is a cost they will have to absorb however, especially with new owners.
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Extended warranty terms should become part of this which will also work well with other problematic areas. As cars get more connected and computer base with that comes higher cost for replacement parts.
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post #10 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-18-2018, 08:46 AM
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Maintenance on EV's is expected to be significantly cheaper than on traditional ICE's due having a fraction of the moving parts. The new Leaf comes standard with a 60 month/60,000 mile powertrain warranty, so any serious issues should be covered.
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